Facelet is a project from Sun's employee, and repositioning as JSF View. We know there is Velocity and Freemarker for a long long long time... I believe that Velocity and Freemarker experience wont be part of the JSR (Facelet JSR).. how many opensource project become an independent project. I just feel that standard is getting unrelevan, because there is no program to hugh and become umbrella for creative cool idea to be part of them. We have Log4J but Sun develop java logging.. but... Groovy is in JSR also, Jetspeed become Portlet API, but.. JPA 2.0 is from Oracle (EclipseLink), and JDO failed (we can see that ORM tech is more dominant in EJB3). I am seeking a way for new OpenSource project become JSR.. so we can join all the creative cool thing there.. to bring trust to the market... ...